<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I'd imagine that "opt-in" could even mean you have to install a separate program/package to send data that's been collected. If it were very separate from the compiler itself, would these security concerns still be a problem? I for one would go through the effort of opting in since I want the ecosystem to improve and I have the luxury not to be dealing with high-security code bases.</div></div><div hspace="streak-pt-mark" style="max-height:1px"><img style="width:0px;max-height:0px;overflow:hidden" src="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aZWFjYW1lcm9uQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=f26da96f-f94b-4e53-af9a-9f75a1c4051b"><font color="#ffffff" size="1">ᐧ</font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:48 PM, George Colpitts <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:george.colpitts@gmail.com" target="_blank">george.colpitts@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I would opt-in. I also agree with Simon that privacy is no longer a big deal although I do believe that most companies do telemetry with an opt in policy. If it's opt-in why would anyone have a problem with telemetry?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 1:46 PM Tom Murphy <<a href="mailto:amindfv@gmail.com" target="_blank">amindfv@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr" class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg">On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:50 AM, Simon Peyton Jones via ghc-devs <span dir="ltr" class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:ghc-devs@haskell.org" class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg" target="_blank">ghc-devs@haskell.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"></div><div dir="ltr" class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_extra m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have wanted telemetry for years.  ("Telemetry" is the term Microsoft, and I think others, use for the phone-home feature.)<br class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg">
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It would tell us how many people are using GHC; currently I have literally no idea.<br class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><br class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"></blockquote><div class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><br class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr" class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_extra m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><div class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg">In practice I think the best data we could get is "how many people are using GHC && are willing to opt into phone-home," which seems like a rougher number than e.g. downloads of ghc/HP or number of downloads of base/containers or something similar. I also would not opt in.<br class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><br class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr" class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_extra m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"><div class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg">Tom<br class="m_7105643836664491374gmail_msg"></div></div></div></div></div></div><span class="">
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