<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Why are you so hostile to Chris? I don’t think that this is an appropriate way to treat somebody who is making a suggestion in good faith.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Chris may not have contributed to GHC, but apart from co-authoring the currently most popular Haskell book, he has consistently contributed to helping people who are new to the language (on Slack, IRC, in blog posts, etc). He has suck a ton of time into moving the language forward.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Moreover, he knows a thing or two about helping newcomers in an effective manner. And he is right in his critique that it is hard to contribute to GHC.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For example, I recently wrote a patch concerning compatibility with macOS Sierra and even posted about it on this list:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> <a href="https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/ghc-devs/2016-July/012512.html" class="">https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/ghc-devs/2016-July/012512.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It’s a small patch, and I just don’t have the time to jump through all the hoops to get it into the repo.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And now before you accuse me of not having contributed to GHC, maybe check the git logs first.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In summary, if you don’t want to consider that maybe it is harder to contribute to GHC than it has to be and making it easier maybe would lead to more contributions, that is one thing. However, I do insist that suggestions made in good faith on this list are treated politely and not being brutally shot down.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Simon, I imagine you agree with me here.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Manuel</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Brandon Allbery <<a href="mailto:allbery.b@gmail.com" class="">allbery.b@gmail.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Christopher Allen <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:cma@bitemyapp.com" target="_blank" class="">cma@bitemyapp.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":2gn" class="a3s aXjCH m1575ec7912a8e46c">This is so short-sighted and wrong that I don't think there's any<br class="">
point in my saying more. You've made it clear you don't care.</div></blockquote></div><br class="">And --- note that I am not a ghc developer --- have made it clear that you do not care how much extra work you make for already massively overworked ghc developers.</div><div class="gmail_extra">You're not contributing. You're not helping. You're derailing.<br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>-- <br class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates</div><div class=""><a href="mailto:allbery.b@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">allbery.b@gmail.com</a> <a href="mailto:ballbery@sinenomine.net" target="_blank" class="">ballbery@sinenomine.net</a></div><div class="">unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad <a href="http://sinenomine.net/" target="_blank" class="">http://sinenomine.net</a></div></div></div>
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