<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Simon Peyton Jones <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:simonpj@microsoft.com" target="_blank">simonpj@microsoft.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">But no need to look at the data type’s constructors, as deriving(Functor) does.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, that's right.</div><div><br></div><div>I believe we've used the "derive Functor" strategy for inferring constraints simply because all generic functions (over Generic1) that we had in mind at the time were Functor-like, so that was an appropriate first solution. But I totally agree that it can be improved!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Pedro</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:josepedromagalhaes@gmail.com" target="_blank">josepedromagalhaes@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:josepedromagalhaes@gmail.com" target="_blank">josepedromagalhaes@gmail.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>José Pedro Magalhães<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 June 2016 09:16<br>
<b>To:</b> Simon Peyton Jones <<a href="mailto:simonpj@microsoft.com" target="_blank">simonpj@microsoft.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ryan Scott <<a href="mailto:ryan.gl.scott@gmail.com" target="_blank">ryan.gl.scott@gmail.com</a>>; Andres Löh <<a href="mailto:andres.loeh@gmail.com" target="_blank">andres.loeh@gmail.com</a>>; GHC developers <<a href="mailto:ghc-devs@haskell.org" target="_blank">ghc-devs@haskell.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Inferring instance constraints with DeriveAnyClass<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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I still don't think you can do it just from the default method's type. A typical case is the following:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New"">class C a where</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New""> op :: a -> Int</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New""> default op :: (Generic a, GC (Rep a)) => a -> Int</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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When giving an instance C [a], you might well find out that you need C a =>, but this is not something<u></u><u></u></p>
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you can see in the type of the default method; it follows only after the expansion of Rep [a] and resolving<u></u><u></u></p>
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the GC constraint a number of times.<u></u><u></u></p>
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Best regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
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Pedro <u></u><u></u></p>
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Simon Peyton Jones <<a href="mailto:simonpj@microsoft.com" target="_blank">simonpj@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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| My question is then: why does DeriveAnyClass take the bizarre approach<br>
| of co-opting the DeriveFunctor algorithm? Andres, you originally<br>
| proposed this in #7346 [2], but I don't quite understand why you<br>
| wanted to do it this way. Couldn't we infer the context simply from<br>
| the contexts of the default method type signatures?<br>
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That last suggestion makes perfect sense to me. After all, we are going to generate an instance looking like<br>
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instance .. => C (T a) where<br>
op1 = <default-op1><br>
op2 = <default-op2><br>
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so all we need in ".." is enough context to satisfy the needs of <default-op1> etc.<br>
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Well, you need to take account of the class op type sig too:<br>
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class C a where<br>
op :: Eq a => a -> a<br>
default op :: (Eq a, Show a) => a -> a<br>
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We effectively define<br>
default_op :: (Eq a, Show a) => a -> a<br>
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Now with DeriveAnyClass for lists, we effectively get<br>
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instance ... => C [a] where<br>
op = default_op<br>
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What is ..? Well, we need (Eq [a], Show [a]); but we are given Eq [a] (because that's op's instantiated type. So Show a is all we need in the end.<br>
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Simon<br>
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