<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body><div><div style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Hi!<br><br>GMP is optional, anyone who cares about the license can build with integer-simple.<br><br>Regards,<br>Niklas </div></div><div dir="ltr"><hr><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Från: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href="mailto:malcolm.wallace@me.com">malcolm.wallace</a></span><br><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Skickat: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">2015-05-19 13:11</span><br><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Till: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href="mailto:haskell@kuhtz.eu">Lars Kuhtz</a></span><br><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Kopia: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href="mailto:ghc-devs@haskell.org">ghc-devs@haskell.org</a></span><br><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Ämne: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Re: [Haskell-cafe] RFC: "Native -XCPP" Proposal</span><br><br></div><div>How does your company deal with the Integer type, whose standard implementation in ghc is via the LGPL'd Gnu multi-precision routines?</div><div class="x-apple-signature"><pre style='font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space: pre-wrap; -ms-word-wrap: break-word;' data-mce-style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Regards,
Malcolm</pre></div><div><br>On 18 May, 2015,at 09:19 PM, Lars Kuhtz <haskell@kuhtz.eu> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="msg-quote"><div class="_stretch"><span class="body-text-content"><span class="body-text-content">I work for PivotCloud. We use Haskell/GHC in our production system on <br>the server side and on the client side.<br><br>My experience is that any license that contains the string "GPL" can <br>cause problems in an corporate context, no matter if it actually is a <br>legal issue or not.<br><br>Folks who are responsible for making decisions about legal implications <br>of the usage of third party software don't always have experience with <br>open source software. Also they are often not familiar with the <br>technical details of "derived work", different types of linking, or the <br>subtleties of distinguishing between build-, link-, and run-time <br>dependencies in modern software engineering pipelines. So, any <br>mentioning of "LGPL" (or similar) potentially causes overhead in the <br>adaption.<br><br>Regards,<br>Lars<br><br>On 5/7/15 11:10 PM, Malcolm Wallace wrote:<br></span></span><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">Exactly. My post was an attempt to elicit response from anyone to whom it matters. There is no point in worrying about hypothetical licensing problems - let's hear about the real ones.</blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">Regards,</blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">Malcolm</blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">On 7 May 2015, at 22:15, Tomas Carnecky wrote:</blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">That doesn't mean those people don't exist. Maybe they do but are too afraid to speak up (due to corporate policy or whatever).</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Malcolm Wallace <<a href="mailto:malcolm.wallace@me.com" data-mce-href="mailto:malcolm.wallace@me.com">malcolm.wallace@me.com</a>> wrote:</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">I also note that in this discussion, so far not a single person has said that the cpphs licence would actually be a problem for them.</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">Regards,</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">Malcolm</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">On 7 May 2015, at 20:54, Herbert Valerio Riedel wrote:</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">On 2015-05-06 at 13:38:16 +0200, Jan Stolarek wrote:</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">[...]</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">Regarding licensing issues: perhaps we should simply ask Malcolm</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">Wallace if he would consider changing the license for the sake of GHC?</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">Or perhaps he could grant a custom-tailored license to the GHC</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">project? After all, the project page [1] says: " If that's a problem</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">for you, contact me to make other arrangements."</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">Fyi, Neil talked to him[1]:</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">| I talked to Malcolm. His contention is that it doesn't actually change</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">| the license of the ghc package. As such, it's just a single extra</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">| license to add to a directory full of licenses, which is no big deal.</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">[1]: <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/351pur/rfc_native_xcpp_for_ghc_proposal/cr1e5n3" data-mce-href="http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/351pur/rfc_native_xcpp_for_ghc_proposal/cr1e5n3">http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/351pur/rfc_native_xcpp_for_ghc_proposal/cr1e5n3</a></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">_______________________________________________</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">Haskell-Cafe mailing list</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><a href="mailto:Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org" data-mce-href="mailto:Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org">Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org</a></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><a href="http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe" data-mce-href="http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe">http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe</a></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">_______________________________________________</blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite">ghc-devs mailing list</blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><a href="mailto:ghc-devs@haskell.org" data-mce-href="mailto:ghc-devs@haskell.org">ghc-devs@haskell.org</a></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><a href="http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ghc-devs" data-mce-href="http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ghc-devs">http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ghc-devs</a></blockquote><blockquote class="quoted-plain-text" type="cite"><br></blockquote><span class="body-text-content"><br>_______________________________________________<br>ghc-devs mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ghc-devs@haskell.org" data-mce-href="mailto:ghc-devs@haskell.org">ghc-devs@haskell.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ghc-devs" data-mce-href="http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ghc-devs">http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ghc-devs</a><br></span></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>