Yes, sorry, the perils of typing URLs out on your phone... :)<span></span><br><br>On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <<a href="mailto:sean@objitsu.com">sean@objitsu.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">PS: Did you mean stackage .ORG not .COM<div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 March 2015 at 13:04, emacstheviking <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sean@objitsu.com');" target="_blank">sean@objitsu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Plunk! (penny drops)<div>I get it...now that is truly the icing on the cabal-hell free cake!</div><div>Thanks again Julian.</div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 March 2015 at 12:48, Julian Birch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','julian.birch@gmail.com');" target="_blank">julian.birch@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If you go to <a href="http://www.stackage.com/lts/1.10" target="_blank">www.stackage.com/lts/1.10</a>, you'll find a hoogle search <span></span>box. It'll give you search results for everything in LTS 1.10.<div><div><br><br>On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sean@objitsu.com');" target="_blank">sean@objitsu.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">What does that do for me within LTS confines? I know Hoogle, but I don't understand what you mean by "<span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">they run a hoogle for the exact version, with every library." ...I just want to understand so I can be as excited as everybody else right now! LOL :)</span><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 March 2015 at 12:34, Julian Birch <span dir="ltr"><<a>julian.birch@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>It gets better: they run a hoogle for the exact version, with every library. :)<div><div><div><span></span><br>On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <<a>sean@objitsu.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Took a while to sink in....DEF trying this out tonight<div>Looks AWESOME if it does what it says!</div><div>Getting excited about Haskell again.</div><div>THANKS!!!! Yoohoo :)</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 March 2015 at 12:10, Julian Birch <span dir="ltr"><<a>julian.birch@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just a small note: if you're suffering from cabal hell, LTS Haskell may help you. I described how to use it here:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.colourcoding.net/blog/archive/2015/02/22/hello-world-web-application-in-haskell.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.colourcoding.net/blog/archive/2015/02/22/hello-world-web-application-in-haskell.aspx</a></div><div><br></div><div>Hope someone finds it useful.</div><div><br></div><div>J<div><div><span></span><br><br>On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <<a>sean@objitsu.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Agreed. I will "finish" with a mild semi-demi-rant too regarding the assumption by a lot of posters that we are all academics with access to papers on this and that. I am not and I don't. If you cite a paper, make sure it's available to Joe Public please!<div><br></div><div>As for only sticking to plain vanialla simple Haskell, yes, that works BUT there are some many great libraries that a real time savers...it's such a shame when they won't play well together!</div><div><br></div><div>So, despite it all, tonight I will be hacking Haskell !</div><div><br></div><div>:)<br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 March 2015 at 19:27, DJ <span dir="ltr"><<a>jakep@arqux.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Yeah. I think there are a lot of us out there. I won't rant (much)
here, because I hope to get some help from time to time. Alienating
people is not a good way to get help.<br>
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But:<br>
<br>
There are many things I like about the language, but I have always
been perplexed by the haskell ecosystem in a couple of ways. However
good and/or interesting a language might be, it is not possible to
do meat and potatoes development unless there is a good supply of
packages/libraries.<br>
<br>
My first problem was that I often just could not get stuff to
install. The second problem was documentation. I hope it has
improved a bit. I was always flabbergasted at the (apparent) belief
that a few lines of API documentation coughed out by haddock are
enough. But that's all there was in a lot of cases. That, and "refer
to xxxx research paper" and "figure it out from the types". Hah. Any
math paper that consisted of just the equations sorted in
alphabetical order would not be well received, I think.<br>
<br>
I really admired that fact that Michael Snoyman wrote a book about
Yesod. For all I know he may not have kept the book up, but at least
he realized that people needed an explanation of how to use his
software.<br>
<br>
Well, back to work. I am going to give haskell another try for sure.
It's just too tempting to give up on. If it doesn't work, the next
stop will be sml or ocaml.<br>
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Best,<br>
<br>
- DJ -<div><div><br>
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<div>On 15-03-01 09:56 AM, emacstheviking
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<div>I feel your pain...</div>
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Confession: I abandoned Haskell two years ago because of
frustration with cabal and hackage. I decided to get back
to the language today, and to start with Haskell School of
Expression. I immediately run into the problem that the
first thing I try to install with cabal does not work.<br>
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<div>It is the same reason I have stopped using it. It's a
real shame. Those with better education and understanding
than mine should be concerned that the uptake of the
language is stunted by its package manager.</div>
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<div>I love Haskell. I have taught myself (the beginnings at
least) of group theory just to better comprehend the
mindset of monads. For that alone I am glad I learned
Haskell as it has rekindled my interest in maths!</div>
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Thanks for any help. Please tell me things are not just as
bad now as they were when I left ;-)<br>
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<div>This mail seems to indicate to me that "cabal hell" is
here for some time to come...</div>
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